What If My Spouse Doesn’t Want To Tithe?

At a recent Financial Learning Experience a lady came to me with a heavy heart with a very serious question, “What if my husband doesn’t want to tithe but I do?  Wow!  Tough question.  Many couples are faced with this same challenge, and it seems to me it’s usually the man who doesn’t want to tithe.

When the I Was Broke. Now I’m Not. team is teaching we approach the subject of tithing from a Psalm 24:1, Matthew 25:14-28, Malachi 3:8-10 (and other verses) point of view.  We make it our mission to talk a lot more about the 90% than the 10%, but when we’re talking about the 10% our position is God owns it all, we’re just managers, we should bring the tithe to the church (God’s house) as an act of worship and  faith in Him and belief that He will continue to provide.  Our heart should be with Him – the provider, not our money or possessions – the provision.

We also strongly believe the Ephesians 5:21-33 principle that husbands and wives should love and respect each other.  There is extra emphasis in those verses about the “husband being the head” that confuses us when it comes to real world application.  The scripture also states “the two become one” when married (also stated in other places like Mark 10:8).  I’ve heard it said that the man might be the head but the woman is the body – which includes the neck that turns the head.

With love and respect for each other as the foundation for everything, husbands and wives are supposed to be on the same page – making decisions together – including financial decisions.  There should be total transparency in every area of life.  Many couples deal with disagreements regarding the tithe (or other money management decisions) by treating their resources as “his” and “hers” rather than “ours”.  Some married people (usually wives) tithe without their spouse knowing so that they can have the peace that they’re being obedient to the word and the hope that they won’t have to address the point of disagreement with their spouse.  My question would be, “how’s that working for you?”

I really do believe this is the approach couples should take to get on the same page with tithing.

Tithing Together

  • Talk – Not talking about it won’t accomplish anything.  Nagging about it won’t accomplish anything.  The first goal should be to at least agreeing to sit down together, with love and respect, to ask each other questions that get to the heart of the matter.  Is one spouse upset with God, the church, their spouse, their financial situation?  What is the root cause leading one spouse to not want to tithe?  Remember – love and respect with total transparency.
  • Pray – When total transparency is out on the table you need to pray, together, asking God to help you both learn and grow through the concerns that are present – ask for wisdom and guidance – ask that you will both be drawn closer to each other and to Him in the process – and that your decisions will be honored as you learn together how to honor God with His finances.
  • Read the Word (together) – Notice everything is TOGETHER.  Sit down and read the word.  Let it provide wisdom and guidance for your decisions to give, not give, to compromise showing love and respect to each other.
  • Watch God Work – God will work in your situation in ways you will never have control over trying to fix it all yourself.

Don’t expect your spouse to just change their mind immediately. It might take time.  The goal of the conversation should be to lovingly and respectfully flesh out important issues that may need to be addressed through prayer and study that can eventually lead you both to a point where you can enjoy tithing together.

That list might seem so cliche, but if this is a struggle in your marriage have you tried them?  Have you done it with love and respect in your heart?  At the end of the day all of this is a heart issue – the whole situation.  Let God work on your hearts, but you have to be seeking him.

I know this all assumes both spouses are believers.  Maybe I’ll post again about what to do if one spouse is not a believer.

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Is Swapalease A Good Idea?

I get lots of questions about buying cars from people who know me – I guess because I’m so transparent about how much I’ve spent and the logic I use in the process (you can read more about my Used Car Buying Strategy and the Used Car Gamble).  One couple presented an interesting idea I had never heard of before – www.swapalease.com.  Here are my thoughts:

  • You have the option to ‘exit your lease’ or ‘find a lease’.  Immediately I think “Find a lease!  Why on earth would I do that?”  Then of course I consider the ‘exit your lease’ option.
  • Exiting your lease in this fashion might not be a bad move…for you.  But for the poor sucker taking the lease, may the force be with them.  The cost for the exiting party isn’t that bad from what I can tell, but here are the catches:
    • The leasing company might not allow it.
    • The leasing company might charge additional fees for it.

Anytime I’m presented with scenarios such as this I always want to know what the person is planning to do next.  Are they just going to go get into another car payment situation that might not be any better than the situation they’re already in?  Do they seem to have made up their mind that they’re done living above their means with car luxury?  Are they going to be better off having made this move?

One guy swore to me the reason he sold his perfectly good almost paid off vehicle was so that he could downgrade to something that would be paid for in cash.  But he got shiny stuff syndrome and actually bought an older but more expensive model which upgraded the amount he owed and extended his payments owed from 1 year to 4 years.  It was justified because “the payment is lower”.  Call me crazy, but paying $400 per month for 4 years on a used vehicle doesn’t sound better than finishing 1 more year of $600 per month on a vehicle that was bought new.

It’s all about the motives, determination, and the outcome of the situation.  Best of luck car buyers.  What’s your strategy?

All The Single Ladies

Warning to all the single ladies.  I just heard a couple of single guys talking negatively about getting married saying that all you’re really doing is combining debt.  Wow – what a great perspective.  While that might be true, many couples are starting out on the wrong foot with their debt load, it shouldn’t be a prevailing purpose for the context of starting a marriage.

If I could sit down with every single person before they get in to a serious relationship my advice for both the guys and girls would be WORK, GET OUT OF DEBT, GET YOUR SPENDING UNDER CONTROL, AND DEVELOP THE DISCIPLINE OF SAVING.  Then my next piece of advice would be to take notice of how generous any potential spouse is, because if they’re not generous as a single person chances are they won’t be generous in the marriage.

At least those guys are aware of the fact that money will cause issues in the marriage, but I hope they get in a better position and learn a better perspective before saying “I Do”.

Truth About Confidence

I recently saw someone wearing this t-shirt, and the caption says – “Confidence is the feeling you have before you fully understand the situation.”

That statement is so true when you really think about it.  For years when I was broke I ran around over-confident in my ability to produce enough income to keep up with poor financial decision making.  It wasn’t working.  I didn’t understand.  Clearly my feelings of confidence were greater than my understanding of the situation I was in.  I WAS BROKE!  Flat broke.  Paycheck to paycheck until I eventually was unable to pay all the bills.

It is so easy to find ourselves in that type of scenario if we refuse to stop and really consider the risk we’re taking when we sign up for debt, over-burden our expected income, and just plain have no margin.

Have you ever come to the realization that you’ve been making over-confident decisions?  What did you do about it, or what ARE you doing about it?

What If My Spouse Won’t Budget

One of the common questions or concerns we get is what should one do when their spouse won’t participate in the budgeting process.  That’s a great question.  Here’s a 4-step starting point:

1. You budget what you can control.  Make sure there’s a plan that includes giving, saving, and wise spending (with some fun).  Make sure the bills are getting paid (hopefully on time).  Make it obvious that you’re doing it.  Print it out, put it on the fridge, start talking to your friends about it.

2. You don’t nag them about it.  Do not give them a hard time because they’re not participating.  Do not talk about them to your friends.  Especially do not talk down to them or about them to anyone else while they are present.  That is soooo disrespectful.

3. You sacrifice even when they don’t.  Sacrifice something you enjoy so that the plan will work.  Sacrifice something you enjoy so that they can keep something that they enjoy.  Even when they don’t reciprocate such sacrifice, you do it anyway.

4. You show them results.  Show them the savings you’re accomplishing by having a plan.  Show them the progress you’re making toward paying down debt.  Show them the freedom you can experience by having a plan that includes fun stuff rather than letting unplanned stuff ruin your fun.

Do those things and you just might be surprised when your spouse has a change of heart and starts to show interest in what you’re doing.

What else might you add to this list?

Talking About Money With Family

It’s not difficult to understand that talking about money is awkward to most people.  It can lead to disagreements and details that we tend to protect out of pride.  So we avoid discussing it, which leads to more problems.

The awkwardness is usually at it’s worst with family though.  I’ve met with so many parents who have kids old enough to understand but the parents are terrified to let the kids in on the state of the financial house.

No matter how hard we try to avoid it at some point the subject of money is going to come up.  The kids will be shocked to find out their parents are broke, or maybe even wildly wealthy.  I’ve heard countless stories of people who had no idea their parents financial position until they died and were presented with either a mess or a fortune, both of which they were unprepared for.

Parents who are broke might be thinking they’re protecting their children from hard facts they don’t need to know, and parents who are doing well might be thinking they’re protecting their children from a sense of entitlement.  Regardless of the reason the ultimate disservice is the fact that the parents are choosing not to effectively communicate the value of money to their children.

Have you helped your kids understand the correlation between hard work and money?  Do they understand the idea of delayed gratification?  Do they know what it means to have discipline when making financial decisions?  Do they know that money and stuff doesn’t equal happiness?

It’s worth it to face the awkward moments together.  Lay it all out.  Be real and honest.  No matter what the state of the financial house is it can be a truly humbling experience, and it will prepare everyone in the family to avoid problems in the future.

Why I Just Ended a 20 Year Relationship

Normally I’m one of those long-term relationship kind of guys.  Even in high school if I dated someone I typically was going for a long lasting and meaningful relationship (which is apparently not normal and shouldn’t even be anywhere near the radar of a high school age person – in my opinion).  But that sense of commitment is one of the many reasons I believe my marriage will last forever.  Shawna and I are committed people.

When it comes to other forms of loyalty I’ve had to learn to keep my sense of commitment in proper perspective.  Like my first mortgage company – Chase Home Finance.  They gave us a mortgage and helped us re-do our mortgage when we were in financial trouble.  But when it came time to re-finance they didn’t give us the time of day, so I had to leave – after all we had been through together.

Wells Fargo SucksMy most recent disappointment is with Wells Fargo (formerly Wachovia).  I opened my first checking account at Wachovia when I was 14 years old – that was 20 Years Ago!  We’ve been through a lot together.  The only car I ever financed was at Wachovia.  I’ve had checking accounts, savings accounts, credit accounts, and even overdraft accounts at Wachovia over the years.  We always had such a great relationship.

Then Wells Fargo came along.  They treated me like a number, closed my overdraft protection account simply because of my recovering credit score (we were broke at one time, now we’re not), ignoring the fact that we had not needed that credit for years, that we weren’t broke anymore, and that we were putting a lot of money in their bank every month.  Then they started charging fee after fee after fee with ridiculous expectations, as though they wanted to have an exclusive relationship with me (their fees scream “bank only with us or we’ll charge you to death, but we’re not going to give you anything for banking only with us”).  Even I don’t go for pushy or one sided relationships – sense of commitment or not.

So I called Wells Fargo.  As expected they were not willing to waive the fees without expecting me to be more committed to them than they would be to me (wanting me to use my debit card a bunch of times per month so they can earn transaction fees etc).  The guy on the phone was powerless to make any kind of decision to preserve our relationship.  I told him it was ashamed I had to end a 20 year relationship (he sounded not much older than 20 so I’m sure he understood).  At least he wasn’t rude, and I had made it easy by already transferring all the balances.  After 20 years – I closed my accounts.

Do you know anyone who after years and years of marriage they have called it quits?  Does my story with banks describe some of the stories you’ve heard about divorce?  Does any of that hit close to home in your own marriage?  It doesn’t have to be that way.  Don’t act like Wells Fargo.  Marriage isn’t a one sided relationship.  You can’t just take take take for your own personal benefit and never add any value to your spouse or the relationship.  Even if you feel like the one has gives gives gives while your spouse takes takes takes – what have you done to address the issue maturely and productively?  Are you working together to win with money AND marriage?  What do you need to do to keep your marriage account open and healthy?

(I am in no way suggesting money is ever a proper reason for divorce and will never ever suggest such a thing.  I’m merely relating to the hard truth that it IS a reason many choose to divorce and it shouldn’t be that way.)

Best and Worst About Experiencing Being Broke

Sometimes I beat myself up about past mistakes. Do you ever do that? One of the things I sometimes reflect on is the fact that I was broke, as in FLAT broke, for a long time. The amount of time I was broke and the timing of when I was broke both have something to do with the best and worst parts of that experience.

I’ll put the worst first. The worst is I was broke for 10 years of my life and the first ten years of my marriage. If I live 80 yrs that’s 1/8 of my life. If I live to see my 50th wedding anniversary that’s 1/5 of my marriage. When I beat myself up about that negative thoughts creep in my head like “if I hadn’t been so stupid for so long we would be a lot farther along financially”. If I ever verbalize any of those thoughts, usually to Shawna or Joe, they are quick to remind me of the good and that those thoughts will never change anything.

Now, for the best – the good. I was only broke for 10 years of my life. It was only 10 years of my marriage. I was young and learned the hard lessons early. I could have let it go on for 20 or 30 or even 50 years and never listened and learned. It could have defined my marriage and my children’s future if I kept using the same broke mentality and lack of discipline. I thank God for bringing us through it sooner than later and pray by his grace we never go through it like that again. We have the rest of our life to keep the finances right and honor God with everything he blesses us to manage.

Have you recognized the turning point in how you manage money? Are you headed in the right direction and never want to go back even when setbacks get you down? Are you done being broke?

Fat Boy Chronicles

If you’ve been using Netflix Streaming for any amount of time you know what it’s like to come across a movie that looks interesting but turns out to have terrible acting, terrible plot, or terrible production quality. I recently cancelled cable so it feels like I’m experiencing the terrible options on Netflix streaming more and more, but I’m glad I kept watching Fat Boy Chronicles despite the terrible acting.

The movie is based on a true story of a fat freshman who is smart but fat, likes a cute girl, but gets picked on constantly because he’s fat. Here are three things I love about the story:

  • 1. The kid had an IHHE moment. You could slowly but surely see it coming, and then it happened. The I HAVE HAD ENOUGH moment. The kid was ticked. He was not going to eat the same ole junk food any more and he put a plan in place to exercise.
  • 2. The kid pursued the girl. Little did the fat kid know the girl he liked also had issues. He liked her for who she was rather than what she was going through and he pursued her. He invited her to church. He pressed in to have difficult conversations with her.
  • 3. The kid faced adversity. By the end of the movie all the immature morons had reason to respect the fat freshman. He had helped them. He had helped himself. He had won the girl. Who couldn’t respect a kid who faced so many challenges and overcame them all in such a positive way…
  • Sometimes we have to have a true IHHE moment to motivate us to fight through the situations and circumstances we face so that we can accomplish the things we want to accomplish, and we just might help others in the process. I love that message! If you can handle the terrible acting I recommend this movie, otherwise just take my word for it – the story is good.